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Wednesday, 13 August 2008
Diaries of AIF Servicemen, Bert Schramm, 13 August 1918
Topic: Diary - Schramm

Diaries of AIF Servicemen

Bert Schramm

13 August 1918

 

Bert Schramm

 

2823 Private Herbert Leslie SCHRAMM, a 22 year old Farmer from Whites River, South Australia. He enlisted on 17 February 1916; and at the conclusion of the war Returned to Australia, 10 July 1919.

During part of the course of his military service with the AIF, Bert Schramm kept a diary of his life. Bert was not a man of letters so this diary was produced with great effort on his behalf. Bert made a promise to his sweetheart, Lucy Solley, that he would do so after he received the blank pocket notebook wherein these entries are found. As a Brigade Scout since September 1918, he took a lead part in the September Offensive by the Allied forces in Palestine. Bert's diary entries are placed alongside those of the 9th Light Horse Regiment to which he belonged and to the 3rd Light Horse Brigade to which the 9th LHR was attached. On this basis we can follow Bert in the context of his formation.

 

The Diaries

The complete diary is now available on the Australian Light Horse Studies Centre Site at:

Bert Schramm Diary


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Bert Schramm's Handwritten Diary, 11 - 18 August 1918

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Bert Schramm

Tuesday, August 13, 1918

Bert Schramm's Location - Bluff, Jordan Valley, Palestine.

Bert Schramm's Diary - We were relieved by the 1st Battalion B.W.I. tonight and we are going back near the Mount of Temptation for a few days.

[B.W.I. = British West Indian Regiment]

 

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Bluff, Jordan Valley, Palestine.

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Enemy exceptionally quiet. Advance officers from 1st Battalion BWI took over Area Stores at 1500.

1720 Enemy artillery fired five rounds.

1830 A body of mounted men, 50 strong observed travelling below foothills towards Grant Hill. Small parties of men were frequently seen during the day travelling in the foothills and leading packhorses down Wadi El Mudah - Dirah. No 1 Battalion, British West Indies Regiment relieved this regiment as garrison F Section Defences. Relief completed by 2330. Regiment concentrated at No 1 crossing Wadi Auja and moved off via roads 26, 33, and 27 to Ain Ed Duk arriving at 0230. Bleechmore, Major C; and, 35 Other Ranks remained in close support to BWI on F Section.

9th LHR AIF War Diary, 13 August

  

Darley

Darley, TH, With the Ninth Light Horse in the Great War, Adelaide, Hassell Press, 1924.

No Entry

 

 

Previous: Bert Schramm's Diary, 12 August 1918

Next: Bert Schramm's Diary, 14 August 1918


Sources Used:

Bert Schramm's Diary

National Archives Service File.

Embarkation Roll, AWM8.

Australian War Memorial Roll of Honour

Nominal Roll, AWM133, Nominal Roll of Australian Imperial Force who left Australia for service abroad, 1914-1918 War.

 

War Diaries and Letters

All War Diaries and letters cited on this site should be read in conjunction with the Australian Light Horse Studies Centre, War Diaries and Letters, Site Transcription Policy which may be accessed at:

Australian Light Horse Studies Centre, War Diaries and Letters, Site Transcription Policy 

 

Further Reading:

Bert Schramm Diary

Bert Schramm Diary, Album

Bert Schramm's Photo Album

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, AIF

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, War Diary, Day by Day Account

Battles where Australians fought, 1899-1920

 


Citation: Diaries of AIF Servicemen, Bert Schramm, 13 August 1918


Posted by Project Leader at 12:01 AM EADT
Updated: Saturday, 4 June 2011 8:37 AM EADT
9th LHR, Roll of Honour, Geoffrey Ochiltree Robertson
Topic: AIF - 3B - 9 LHR

9th LHR, AIF

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment

Roll of Honour

Geoffrey Ochiltree Robertson

 

Geoffrey Ochiltree Robertson's name on the Roll of Honour, Australian War Memorial

 

Geoffrey Ochiltree Robertson

Rank: Lieutenant [Lt]

Unit: 9th Australian Light Horse

Service: Army

Conflict: 1914-1918

Date of death: 13 August 1916

Cause of death: Died of wounds

Cemetery or memorial details: EGYPT 2 Kantara War Memorial Cemetery

War Grave Register notes: ROBERTSON, Lt. Geoffrey Ochiltree. 9th Australian Light Horse. Died of wounds 13th Aug., 1916. Age 20. Son of F. R. G. and Emma Robertson, of Mortat, Goroke, Victoria, Australia. D. 14.

Source: AWM145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army.

 

A brief military biography of Geoffrey Ochiltree Robertson from The AIF Project:

Regimental number607
Date of birth7 May 1895
ReligionPresbyterian
OccupationGrazier
AddressGoroke, Victoria
Marital statusSingle
Age at embarkation19
Next of kinF.R.G.Robertson, Mortat, Goroke, Victoria
Enlistment date7 January 1915
Rank on enlistmentPrivate
Unit name9th Light Horse Regiment, C Squadron
AWM Embarkation Roll number10/14/1
Embarkation detailsUnit embarked from Melbourne, Victoria, on board HMAT A10 Karroo on 11 February 1915
Rank from Nominal RollLieutenant
Unit from Nominal Roll9th Light Horse Regiment
Promotions

2nd Lieutenant


Unit: LH9
Promotion date:
3 November 1915
FateDied of wounds 13 August 1916
Age at death from cemetery records20
Place of burialKantarta War Memorial Cemetery (Row D, Grave No. 14), Egypt
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
  Australian War Memorial
7
Miscellaneous information from
  cemetery records
Parents: Mr. F. and Emma ROBERTSON, Mortat, Goroke, Victoria

 

Lest we forget

 

 

Further Reading:

9th Light Horse Regiment, AIF

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, Roll of Honour 

Battle of Romani, Sinai, August 4 to 5, 1916 

Bir el Abd, Sinai, 9 August 1916

Battles where Australians fought, 1899-1920

 


Citation: 9th LHR, Roll of Honour, Geoffrey Ochiltree Robertson

Posted by Project Leader at 12:01 AM EADT
Updated: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 12:20 PM EADT
London Times, 13 August 1900, p. 3
Topic: BatzB - Elands

The Battle of Elands River, 4 August 1900

Report by the Times, 13 August 1900

 

 London Times, 13 August 1900, p. 3

 

The above is the London Times report on the action at Elands River. Below is the transcript.

 

SIR F. CARRINGTON'S OPERATIONS.

RETIREMENT TO MAFEKING

(FROM OUR CORRESPONDENT.)

ZEERUST, Aug. 7*.

On the 5th Sir F. Carrington made a determined attempt to relieve Elands River, which was held by Lieutenant-Colonel Hoare with 250 of the Protectorate Regiment, and 150 Bushmen, of the Rhodesian Field Force. The enemy were strongly intrenched, and had big gnus and "Pom Poms." On their front they held fortified kopjes, and there were kopjes also on their right and left flanks.

At dawn Sir F. Carrington's column engaged the enemy occupying a bushy kopje. At 10 45 a.m. the kopje was cleared by our guns. A squadron who took the left kopje were shelled by the big guns of the enemy, but they held the position till after the guns wore temporarily silenced.

Mixed troops under Major Baker then advanced on the enemy's front under a heavy rifle and machine-gun fire, but retired till the enemy were shelled heavily by our Krupps and "Pom Poms."

Lieutenant Thomas and ten Bushmen were cut off while scouting. Lieutenant Thomas is safe; the remainder are missing. Lieutenant Moore, after two attempts, rescued a wounded private under a heavy fire, the enemy sniping from all sides.

The force, being much too small, retired to Marico River with the guns and transport, fighting very steadily a rearguard action. The losses were 15 killed and missing, and six wounded, none seriously.

The enemy were estimated to number 2,000, and were under Commandant Delarey.

On the 6th a supply convoy from Zeerust to Marico was cut off by the enemy.

As the enemy were occupying the hills on our flank- Sir F. Carrington's column retired on Zeerust after two hours' fighting. Our casualties numbered eight.

OTTOSHOOP, Aug. 8, via Mafeking, Aug. 9.*

It has been decided to concentrate Sir F. Carrington's forces at Mafeking, his operations having drawn together a large force of Boers against him. The force successfully withdrew from Zeerust to Ottoshoop enroute for Mafeking, taking 180 wagons with supplies. Sergeant Hungerford and six- troopers have returned, having been missing since Sunday.

*Delayed by the Censor.

 

 

Further Reading:

Elands River

Battles where Australians fought, 1899-1920

 


Citation: London Times, 13 August 1900, p. 3 

Posted by Project Leader at 12:01 AM EADT
Updated: Monday, 27 July 2009 1:12 PM EADT
9th LHR AIF War Diary, August 13
Topic: AIF - 3B - 9 LHR

9th LHR, AIF

9th Light Horse Regiment

War Diary, 13 August

Pro Gloria et Honore - For Glory and Honour

Regimental March -  Marching Through Georgia

 

 

The following entries are extracted and transcribed from the 9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary, the originals of which are held by the Australian War Memorial. There are 366 entries on this site. Each day has entries as they occurred from 1914 to 1919. In addition to the 9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary, when appropriate, entries from the 3rd Light Horse Brigade War Diary and other regiments with the Brigade will also appear. Entries from the unit history, Darley, TH, With the Ninth Light Horse in the Great War, Adelaide, Hassell Press, 1924 will also appear from time to time. The aim is to give the broadest context to the story and allow the reader to follow the day to day activities of the regiment. If a relative happened to have served in the regiment during the Great War, then this provides a general framework in which the individual story may be told.

 

The Diary

 

1914

Thursday, August 13, 1914

See 4th Military District, South Australia for militia activities.

 

1915

Friday, August 13, 1915

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Walkers Ridge

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - No Entry.

Carew Reynell Diary  - No Entry.

 

1916

Sunday, August 13, 1916

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Hod Abu Dahad

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Brigade Resting.

Enemy plane dropped bombs. No casualties.

Regiment went to Hod Nabit and returned to Hod Hasanien for the night.

 

1917

Monday, August 13, 1917
9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Tel el Marakeb
9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Range practice and lectures as per syllabus.

 

1918

Tuesday, August 13, 1918

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Bluff

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Enemy exceptionally quiet. Advance officers from 1st Battalion BWI took over Area Stores at 1500.

1720 Enemy artillery fired five rounds.

1830 A body of mounted men, 50 strong observed travelling below foothills towards Grant Hill. Small parties of men were frequently seen during the day travelling in the foothills and leading packhorses down Wadi El Mudah - Dirah.

No 1 Battalion, British West Indies Regiment relieved this regiment as garrison F Section Defences. Relief completed by 2330.

Regiment concentrated at No 1 crossing Wadi Auja and moved off via roads 26, 33, and 27 to Ain Ed Duk arriving at 0230.

Bleechmore, Major C; and, 35 Other Ranks remained in close support to BWI on F Section.

 

1919

Wednesday, August 13, 1919

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Adelaide

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Regiment disbanded.

 

 

Previous: 9th LHR AIF War Diary, 12 August

Next: 9th LHR AIF War Diary, 14 August

 

Sources:

See: 9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, Contents
Australian Light Horse Studies Centre, AIF War Diaries of the Great War, Site Transcription Policy

 

Further Reading:

9th Light Horse Regiment AIF

Bert Schramm Diary

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, Roll of Honour 

Battles where Australians fought, 1899-1920

 


Citation: 9th LHR AIF War Diary, 13 August

Posted by Project Leader at 12:01 AM EADT
Updated: Wednesday, 15 September 2010 10:32 PM EADT
Tuesday, 12 August 2008
Ramle Prison Camp, September 1918
Topic: GW - Atrocities

İbrahim Arikan, Bir Mehmetcigin Canakkale, Galicya, Filistin Cephesi Anıları Harp Hatıralarım, Ankara, 2007.

The most encouraging thing to occur in Turkey today is the number of books relating to personal reflections of the war by ordinary Turkish veterans. These are not in the genre of personality cult for Ataturk but deal with ordinary soldiers who did what they had to do with their actions framed in the exigencies of the times. So it was refreshing to see the release in January 2007 of the book by former Signals Sergeant Major İbrahim (Arikan) from the village of Akviran located in the province called Kırklareli or commonly known in English as Eastern Thrace. The book was called: Bir Mehmetcigin Canakkale, Galicya, Filistin Cephesi Anıları Harp Hatıralarım, which translated means: A Turkish Soldier's War Memories at Gallipoli, Galacia and Palestine Fronts. İbrahim enlisted as a private at the beginning of the war in the 3rd Infantry Battalion of the 61st Infantry Regiment. As a Sergeant Major, İbrahim was captured during the September 1918 offensive in northern Plaestine and ended up as a POW in the Ramle Prison Camp. Upon his release as a POW, he was discharged.

A common enough story.

In his memoirs, he makes the following allegation found at p. 236:

At Ramle Prison Camp our interpretor was a fat Armenian. He wore the uniform of a British Officer complete with a Sam Brown belt but without any rank insignia. He was obese weighing about 120 kilograms. He snorted and grunted like a wild pig. We could see hatred in his face when looking at us. He was taking his revenge against the Turks. On every occasion he always insulted us.

One day he called out: "Hauptman Ahmetoglu Ali!"

There was no anwer. The term "Hauptman" means "Captain" in German while in Turkish the term is "Yüzbaşı". Our captain Ali failed to respond and refused to respond.

Later the Armenian yelled: "Yüzbaşı Ahmetoğlu Ali!"

Our captain Ali now answered. The Armenian was infuriated. He shouted to our captain.

"Why dont you respond? For many years you have been comrades with Germans. Haven't you learned their language?"

Captain Ali told the Armenian that we were all Turks. This made the Armanian angrier still.

"Are you insulted" he asked. "You murdered our women and children by throwing them into Tigris River. Isn't that insulting for us?"

He was attempting to take revenge for something about which we knew nothing and nor were we responsible for the action.

During the distribution of meals, our senior officer such as Colonels, Lieutenant Colonels and other officers were in the same line with the rest of us. This insulted our pride and gave us a feeling of sadness. We held our officers in high esteem obeyed them. This humiliation of the officers insulted our national pride.

On 21 September 1918 we were entrained to El Kantara.

The claim is quite serious: The British allowed Armenians with a grievance against the Ottomans, a free hand to humiliate Turkish troops. 

There is every appearance in this critique that there was poor planning by the British authorities in dealing with such a large influx of prisoners. The collapse of the Ottoman front in Northern Palestine was rapid revealing a capture of 75,000 Ottoman soldiers in the space of two weeks, something very much in excess of the numbers captured over the previous four years. In view of the overwhelming numbers, there was no time for niceties.

As to the Armenian, the pejorative description indicates a tension that existed between İbrahim and the interpreter. It was hardly objective and in itself, insulting and thus not designed to elicit sympathy from anyone outside a confined audience who perceived all Armenian men in this characatured sense. 

On the other side, there is no complaint about lack of food, shelter or other assistance. So apart from some very close ethnic tension which was not within the province of British care, this complaint seems just a bit stretched. It is a sure thing that this summary will meet with scorn amongst those who see ethnicity as the most important guage of civilisation and thus see the above as part of the greater Armenian plot to disparage Turks. Then there will be the bulk of Turks and other people who will read this and agree with the conclusions. Apart from some ethnic tension, there was no systematic abuse of Ottoman POWs.


Citation: Ramle Prison Camp, September 1918

Posted by Project Leader at 7:27 PM EADT
Updated: Sunday, 17 August 2008 12:45 PM EADT

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