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Saturday, 30 August 2008
Hotchkiss Portable Machine Gun Handbook - Page 13
Topic: Wp - Hotchkiss PMG

The following weeks will see the various pages from the Hotchkiss Portable Machine Gun Handbook, the official manual issued by the company for the use of troops in the field. The Hotchkiss Gun was introduced in the Light Horse formations during the early months of 1917. The introduction of this robust and portable gun gave the Light Horse Regiments additional mobile fire power which considereably added to their ability to sustain light combat situations and defend against vastly numerically superior forces. Apart from being an excellent weapon, it was in much demand by the Turkish forces who considered the capture of a Hotchkiss Gun well worth any risks involved in the process. This is a manual produced in 1917 and illustrates the method by which the Hotchkiss Gun was packed and moved throughout the Palestine campaign.


Hotchkiss Portable Machine Gun Handbook - Page 13

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Citation: Hotchkiss Portable Machine Gun Handbook - Page 13

Posted by Project Leader at 5:14 PM EADT
Updated: Saturday, 30 August 2008 7:21 PM EADT
Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 3
Topic: Militia - LH

 

4TH MILITARY DISTRICT- continued


INFANTRY - 19TH INFANTRY BRIGADE - continued

 

78th Infantry (Adelaide Rifles).

 

Headquarters - Adelaide

Machine Gun Section -  Adelaide East

"A" Company - Adelaide East

"B" Company - Adelaide East

"C" Company - St Peters

"D" Company - St Peters, Adelaide University

"E" Company - Goodwood

"F" Company - Glenelg

"G" Company - Mitcham, Edwardstown, Victor Harbour, McLaren Vale

"H" Company - Mile End, Thebarton

 

79th (Torrens) Infantry.


(Attached for training 1913-14, to 19th Infantry Brigade.)

Head-Quarters - Norwood

Machine Gun Section - Norwood

"A" Company - North Norwood

"B" Company - Norwood

"C" Company - North Adelaide

"D" Company - Prospect

"E" Company - Gawler, Angaston, Nuriootpa, Tanunda, Kapunda

"F" Company - Magill, Ashton, Paradise, Tea Tree Gully, Lobethal, Blumberg

"G" Company - North Norwood

"H" Company - Walkerville

 

81st (Wakefield) Infantry.

 

(Attached for training, 1913-14, to 19th Infantry Brigade

Head-Quarters (less Signallers and Band) - Wallaroo

Signallers - Broken Hill

Band - Moonta

Machine Gun Section - Broken Hill

"A" Company - Moonta, Moonta Mines, Maitland

"B" Company - Wallaroo, Kadina, Wallaroo Mines, Clare, Balaklava

"C" Company - Port Pirie, Jamestown

"D" Company - Petersburg, Quorn, Port Augusta, Burra

"E" Company - Broken Hill

"F" Company - Broken Hill

"G" Company - Broken Hill

"H" Company - Broken Hill

 


 

Further Reading:

Militia Structure in Australia from 1903 to 1914

For the South Australian Light Horse Militia establishment, see:

Light Horse structure 1903

1903 Reorganisation, South Australia

1903 Reorganisation, SA, 16th ALHR

1903 Reorganisation, SA, 17th ALHR

South Australian Light Horse location list 1910

Light Horse structure 1914

Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District

For 22nd Australian Light Horse details, see:

22nd Australian Light Horse 

22nd Australian Light Horse, HQ, MGS and "A" Sqn, 1912

22nd Australian Light Horse, "B" Sqn, 1912

22nd Australian Light Horse,  "C" Sqn, 1912

For 23rd (Barossa) Australian Light Horse details, see:   

23rd (Barossa) Light Horse

For 24th (Flinders) Australian Light Horse details, see:

24th (Flinders) Australian Light Horse

Peacetime and Wartime Regimental Establishments, see:

Peace establishment of Australian Light Horse, 1903-14  

4th Military District Staff Roster and Allocations, see:

Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 4

Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 5

For 1914 Infantry, Artillery and other service arms distribution, see:

Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 2 

Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 3 

Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 4

 

Additional reference:

RK Peacock, Evolution of Australian Light Horse Regiments 1841-1935,  Unpublished MSS, c.1936. 

 


Citation: Militia Distribution in Australia, 1914, 4th Military District, Part 3

Posted by Project Leader at 4:26 PM EADT
Updated: Wednesday, 8 October 2008 9:02 AM EADT
9th LHR On Manoeuvres, The Alleged Elliott Photograph Examined, Part 2
Topic: BatzP - Beersheba

9th LHR On Manoeuvres

The Alleged Elliott Photograph Examined, Part 2

 

 

 Journal of the Australian War Memorial, October 1983, p. 33.

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The Alleged Elliott Photograph Examined

In an earlier article called:

9th LHR On Manoeuvres

the proposition was raised that the alleged Elliott photograph claimed to be the charge of the 4th LHB at Beersheba. By a number of posts, each dealing with discrete sections of knowledge, it will be demonstrated that the alleged Elliott photograph was actually a picture taken by Captain Hurley of the 9th LHR on manoevres near Deir el Belah in February 1918. This is Part 2 of the discussion. The internal evidence of the alleged Elliott photograph.

One of the most fundamental methods of research is to allow the document or photgraph tell its own story. It is a process of examining the internal evidence. In this post, the alleged Elliott photograph will be examined on its own merits with the same picture available to Professor Ian Jones when he wrote his article in 1983. In that manner we can establish if the research and conclusions were accurate or deficient in dilligence prior to publication. Thus we will examine the internal evidence of the photograph.

In supporting this claim by Elliott was an article written by Ian Jones called: Is This The Charge At Beersheba? and published in the Journal of the Australian War Memorial, October 1983. Page 33 of the Journal is reproduced at the top of this article.

The reason for reproducing this page is to highlight the material available to Elliott and Jones which is available to everyone else through this article. So to that end, it is important to use this as the starting point to analyse the quality of scholarship produced by Jones in supporting the Elliott claim. This will allow all protagonists in this argument to begin from a common point - the published claim and reproduced photograph.

One item noticable on this copy is a red circle in the background. Below is an enlargement of the scene it describes.

 

Second Line, Charge Picture enlarged, 1.

 

This picture is extracted from that found in the Journal of the Australian War Memorial, October 1983, p. 33, the same facilities available to Jones then and now. The picture describes two dismounted men overviewing the 2nd line. Two empty saddles indicates that the riders have dismounted.

But what is going on here? What are these three men looking at?

If the focus is moved to the first section of horsemen in the second line, the answer becomes clear.

 

Second Line, Charge Picture enlarged, 2.

 

The horsemen of the sections immediately adjacent to the two dismounted horsemen are facing towards those men. The legs of the various horses indicates that there is no movement occurring at all. They are stationary. While it is beyond the ken to know exactly the actions that are occurring at the moment this picture was taken, it appears as though the men of this section are taking instructions from the dismounted soldiers.

If this is the thundering charge picture as described by Elliott, then the men in the second row are behaving quite casually and indeed are not charging at all.

Below is the whole section summed up.

 

Second Line, Charge Picture enlarged, 3.

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These men are not charging at all. Quite the contrary, they are standing around seemingly awaiting orders.

Now here is the problem confronted by those who believe that the picture was taken by Elliott. If the answer is that the picture represents the formation of the charge rather than the total charge, as has been put forward by some, then there is contradiction with the positioning of the third line. This relates to the hand drawn map by Massie indicating that the third line was assembled in line of column prior to the charge of the 4th LHB. The map and description may be located here:

 

Hand drawn map of the 4th LHB prior to charging into Beersheba, 31 October 1917

 

 

In other words, the logic doesn't allow an each way description. If, as those who believe it is the Elliott photograph, this is the commencement of the charge, then the absence of the third line being in line of column militates against it being the Elliott photograph as it does not reflect the conditions at that moment. If this is then a picture of the full blown charge, then the second line does not appear to be charging at all and thus it cannot be the charge scene described by Elliott in his declaration:

I hastened to complete my job under the impression that this was what my charts were required for, at the same time keeping my eye on the Brigade area, to to my surprise it seemed to be within minutes, I saw horsemen in extended order coming over the crest of the ridge, I packed my gear, and then came another line of troops in the same order, I then moved around to the other side of the knoll, and by this time the third line appeared, bewildered by what was happening I just lay there and gazed in astonishment, as the front line drew nearer I saw that their bayonets were drawn and that they were approaching at a hard gallop, having a camera in my haversack I got it out and took a shot 

 

BEERSHEEBA... THE CONTROVERSIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE CHARGE 

 

Further compounding this situation is that of the third line. The aspect of the horses' stance indicates that the line too is standing still or not engaged in any charging action.

The internal evidence of the photograph leads one only to a single conclusion, it cannot possibly be the photograph of the charge at Beersheba by the 4th LHB as alleged by Elliott and supported by Jones.  It would appear as though the examination of the picture by Jones was not conducted on the merits of the picture but introducing extraneous factors that have no bearing upon the subject. An examination of the internal evidence was not beyond the ability of Jones for the screening of the picture for the article meant that he had a high quality reproduction available to him. The enlargements in this post come directly from the screened photograph he had available to him at the time of publication in 1983. Nothing new has been added. The only difference between these two dates is a rigorous examination of the background in the picture, something that was absent in the initial article.

One final reflection. In the latest coffee table book produced by Jones called: A Thousand Miles of Battles, it is essentially a rehash of the Time Life book from 1986 with no attempt at a serious examination of this issue and others in light of recent scholarship. While no doubt becoming a popular version of the story, its inherent inaccuracies of detail make it risible for the purposes of scholarship. Indeed, it compounds the difficulties in telling an accurate story to the public when it is shrouded in solid myth. It is this mythology that debases the contribution of the men and women to our nation during these terrible years. It makes a mockery of their sacrifice and turns them into cartoon characters. But what else can one expect from a film script writer whose job is to sell fantasy. There is no problem with people producing fictional films but there is a major problem when fiction is produced under the guise of a book written by an "academic" and then sold to the public as reality. 

When examining various works, indeed even this blog, it is essential to test all the information to ascertain its veracity. Elliott made a claim about a photograph which has been sustained by many over the years. When examined under forensic conditions, the claim seems to fade away. So too do the claims of Elliott's supporters.

 

Acknowledgement: This ground breaking study would not have been possible without the expert assistance of Chris Horvath and Steve Becker, both of whom contributed their own expertise. Chris and I discussed in detail the issues related to this photograph during my visit to Perth in July 2008 while Steve Becker added a depth of technical information regarding the movement of mounted cavalry. Of course, any errors, mistakes or omissions are mine alone. Bill Woerlee.

 

Further Reading:

9th LHR On Manoeuvres

Fleas on fleas -The results from careless work - a case study 

Pictures (taken 2006) of the route taken by the 4th LHB charge at Beersheba

Hand drawn map of the 4th LHB prior to charging into Beersheba, 31 October 1917

Official map of the Beersheba Charge 



Citation: 9th LHR On Manoeuvres, The Alleged Elliott Photograph Examined, Part 2

Posted by Project Leader at 10:47 AM EADT
Updated: Monday, 27 July 2009 6:21 PM EADT
Colonel Husnu, Yildirim, Page 54
Topic: Tk - Bks - Yildirim

Another entry from the book written by Lieutenant Colonel Hüseyin Hüsnü Emir, called Yildirim. Every day, one page of the book will be posted. This is Page 54.



Colonel Hüsnü, Yildirim, Page 54.
[Turkish edition: Genelkurmay Basim Evi, Ankara 2002, p. 40]

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Citation: Colonel Hüsnü, Yildirim, Page 54

Posted by Project Leader at 9:50 AM EADT
Updated: Saturday, 30 August 2008 9:54 AM EADT
Memorandum on proposed Reconnaissance to Bir el Abd, 5 May 1916, Page 2
Topic: AIF - DMC - Anzac MD

Memorandum on proposed Reconnaissance to Bir el Abd, 5 May 1916, Page 2


 

Memorandum on proposed Reconnaissance to Bir el Abd, 5 May 1916, Page 2
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Posted by Project Leader at 1:01 AM EADT
Updated: Sunday, 31 August 2008 2:38 PM EADT

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