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Monday, 16 June 2008
WSMD Messages 3rd Echelon Procedures
Topic: AIF - HQ - 3rd Echelon

WSMD MESSAGES

WSMD = Wounded, Sick, Missing, and Dead.

The nature of the war meant that the government and AIF was very sensitive to give information to relatives regarding the status of the man if he fell into any one of these four categories.  The below sheet is an extract from the formal procedures carried out by 3rd Echelon to ensure that the required information reached the relatives with a useful and full description in a timely manner. Sheets like this remind the reader that behind all the notes found in the service files, there were established procedures to produce the documents. This document illustrates the underlying structures that supported the massive and varied reporting that occurred. For the relatives, this was at times dreaded reporting, but it was merciful. In comparison to some of the less well supervised forces, the relief of knowing the fate of a loved one was not a matter of doubt in most cases.



Citation: WSMD Messages 3rd Echelon Procedures


Posted by Project Leader at 9:53 PM EADT
Updated: Sunday, 21 September 2008 10:02 AM EADT
School Cadet Appointments and changes - 1910 MO 75, p. 7
Topic: Militia - Military Orders

School Cadets units were seen as essential in feeding trained men into the Militia.  1910 Military Order 75 details the problems involved in maintaining school cadet units. When a formation was disbanded, it usually meant either a lack of students at the school district, or possibly more accurate, a lack of interest in that region for school cadets for any number of reasons.

If one reads the list of School Cadet Appointments, in South Australia the name of William John Kinnish is present. Kinnish went onto enlist in the South Australian 43rd Infantry Battalion and allocated to C Company. He was highly regarded and recommended for promotion to Battalion 2IC with the view to taking command of a Battalion in his own right. On 4 July 1917 he was wounded but remained on duty. On 6 july 1917 he was in the hand, hip and groin by shrapnel. He was obviously badly hurt as he never took a field command again but saw the war out in a training capacity. He was Mentioned in Despatches.

Citation: School Cadet Appointments and changes - 1910 MO 75, p. 7


Posted by Project Leader at 9:45 AM EADT
Updated: Thursday, 19 June 2008 6:37 PM EADT
Diaries of AIF Servicemen, Bert Schramm, 16 June 1918
Topic: Diary - Schramm

Diaries of AIF Servicemen

Bert Schramm

16 June 1918

 

Bert Schramm

 

2823 Private Herbert Leslie SCHRAMM, a 22 year old Farmer from Whites River, South Australia. He enlisted on 17 February 1916; and at the conclusion of the war Returned to Australia, 10 July 1919.

During part of the course of his military service with the AIF, Bert Schramm kept a diary of his life. Bert was not a man of letters so this diary was produced with great effort on his behalf. Bert made a promise to his sweetheart, Lucy Solley, that he would do so after he received the blank pocket notebook wherein these entries are found. As a Brigade Scout since September 1918, he took a lead part in the September Offensive by the Allied forces in Palestine. Bert's diary entries are placed alongside those of the 9th Light Horse Regiment to which he belonged and to the 3rd Light Horse Brigade to which the 9th LHR was attached. On this basis we can follow Bert in the context of his formation.

 

The Diaries

The complete diary is now available on the Australian Light Horse Studies Centre Site at:

Bert Schramm Diary

Finding more about a service person. See:

Navigating the National Archives Service File 

 

Bert Schramm's Handwritten Diary, 10 - 16 June 1918

[Click on page for a larger print version.]

 

Bert Schramm

Sunday, June 16, 1918

Bert Schramm's Location - Ain Ed Duk, Jordan Valley

Bert Schramm's Diary - We were relieved by the NZ [New Zealand] Brigade this morning and tonight we are camped east of Jericho near the Dead Sea.

 

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Ain Ed Duk, Jordan Valley

9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - 0400 Wellington Mounted Rifles took over No. 4 Sub Sector defences and the whole of the Regiment withdrew to day bivouac in Sq M33a.

1630 The Regiment marched to Sq K4 near Tel es Sultan drew rations and proceeded to a point 11/2 miles east of Jericho arriving there at 2100. The Regiment remained here in reserve to Onediv who were carrying out a reconnaissance in force of the Jordan Valley.

9th LHR AIF War Diary, 16 June

 

Darley

Darley, TH, With the Ninth Light Horse in the Great War, Adelaide, Hassell Press, 1924.

No Entry.

 

 

Previous: Bert Schramm's Diary, 15 June 1918

Next: Bert Schramm's Diary, 17 June 1918


Sources Used:

Bert Schramm's Diary

National Archives Service File.

Embarkation Roll, AWM8.

Australian War Memorial Roll of Honour

Nominal Roll, AWM133, Nominal Roll of Australian Imperial Force who left Australia for service abroad, 1914-1918 War.

 

War Diaries and Letters

All War Diaries and letters cited on this site should be read in conjunction with the Australian Light Horse Studies Centre, War Diaries and Letters, Site Transcription Policy which may be accessed at:

Australian Light Horse Studies Centre, War Diaries and Letters, Site Transcription Policy 

 

Further Reading:

Bert Schramm Diary

Bert Schramm Diary, Album

Bert Schramm's Photo Album

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, AIF

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, War Diary, Day by Day Account

Battles where Australians fought, 1899-1920

 


Citation: Diaries of AIF Servicemen, Bert Schramm, 16 June 1918


Posted by Project Leader at 12:01 AM EADT
Updated: Monday, 30 May 2011 12:09 PM EADT
9th LHR AIF War Diary, 16 June
Topic: AIF - 3B - 9 LHR

9th LHR, AIF

9th Light Horse Regiment

War Diary, 16 June

Pro Gloria et Honore - For Glory and Honour

Regimental March -  Marching Through Georgia

 

 

The following entries are extracted and transcribed from the 9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary, the originals of which are held by the Australian War Memorial. There are 366 entries on this site. Each day has entries as they occurred from 1914 to 1919. In addition to the 9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary, when appropriate, entries from the 3rd Light Horse Brigade War Diary and other regiments with the Brigade will also appear. Entries from the unit history, Darley, TH, With the Ninth Light Horse in the Great War, Adelaide, Hassell Press, 1924 will also appear from time to time. The aim is to give the broadest context to the story and allow the reader to follow the day to day activities of the regiment. If a relative happened to have served in the regiment during the Great War, then this provides a general framework in which the individual story may be told.

 

The Diary

 

1914

Tuesday, June 16, 1914

See 4th Military District, South Australia for militia activities.

 

1915

Wednesday, June 16, 1915

9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Walkers Ridge
9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - No entry.
3rd Light Horse Brigade War Diary - 9th Light Horse Regiment, two killed and three Other Ranks wounded. 10th Light Horse Regiment, two Other Ranks wounded and also three men from Auckland Mounted Rifles wounded by shell from Anafarta Turk gun.
Heavy bombardment at Helles at night.
Brigadier took over temporary command of No. 3 Sector in place of Colonels Chauvel and Johnston sick.
Bombed Turk trenches with Garling bombs.
Carew Reynell Diary  - No entry.

 

1916

Friday, June 16, 1916
9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Roadhead Serapeum.
9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Routine training and patrol work.
Lieutenant R Wilkinson returned from Anzac Mounted Division Headquarters and resumed duties as Adjutant.

 

1917

Saturday, June 16, 1917
9th Light Horse Regiment Location - El Shellal
9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - At 1830 “A” Squadron moved out and took over night outpost line from 8th Light Horse Regiment.
At 0315 “A” Squadron and one troop “B” Squadron moved out through the night posts and took up the day line. An enemy patrol was encountered on the high ground west of El Girheir but on approach of our patrol fell back. The day being exceptionally hot, little movement took place but the usual Bedouin harvesting party under a Turkish cavalry escort were working east of the Wadi Imlieh. Towards evening the enemy patrols showed activity and followed up our patrols a short distance on their withdrawing in the evening. A Bedouin and one Turkish infantryman, disarmed, came in through the line. On being relieved at daylight “A” Squadron retired and remained in reserve outside the front line during the day. Three troops “B” Squadron relieved “C” Squadron troops at Point 400 and 510 and Goz el Basal at 1300.
Regimental Headquarters was established throughout the day at Goz el Geleib.
 

1918

Sunday, June 16, 1918
9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Ain Ed Duk
9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - 0400 Wellington Mounted Rifles took over No. 4 Sub Sector defences and the whole of the Regiment withdrew to day bivouac in Sq M33a.
1630 The Regiment marched to Sq K4 near Tel es Sultan drew rations and proceeded to a point 1½ miles east of Jericho arriving there at 2100. The Regiment remained here in reserve to Onediv who were carrying out a reconnaissance in force of the Jordan Valley.

 

1919

Monday, June 16, 1919
9th Light Horse Regiment Location - Tel el Kebir
9th Light Horse Regiment War Diary - Thirty six cases of gifts from Australian Comforts Fund distributed.

 


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Next: 9th LHR AIF War Diary, 17 June

 

Sources:

See: 9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, Contents
Australian Light Horse Studies Centre, AIF War Diaries of the Great War, Site Transcription Policy

 

Further Reading:

9th Light Horse Regiment AIF

Bert Schramm Diary

9th Australian Light Horse Regiment, Roll of Honour 

Battles where Australians fought, 1899-1920

 


Citation: 9th LHR AIF War Diary, 16 June

Posted by Project Leader at 12:01 AM EADT
Updated: Saturday, 7 August 2010 3:24 PM EADT
Sunday, 15 June 2008
3052 Trooper Arthur Arould Herde
Topic: AIF - 3B - 9 LHR
3052 Trooper Arthur Arould Herde, 9th Light Horse Regiment, B Squadron.


Below are two section of a brief Military Biography of  3052 Trooper Arthur Arould Herde. It is divided into two parts. Part One deals with all his specific details from enlistment to return to Australia. Part Two is a week by week summary of status from “Enlistment” to “Returned to Australia”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3052 Trooper Arthur Arnold Herde

Picture by courtesy of the Herde Family 

Part One: Specific details from “Enlistment” to “Returned to Australia”.

Surname: Herde
First Name: Arthur
Other Names: Arould
Service Number: 3052
Rank: Private
1924 List: Yes
Place of Birth: SA
Boer War Service: No
Age: 23
Birth Year: 1893
Employment: Labourer
Status: Single
District: Winninowie
State: South Australia
NOK: Mother
Title: Mrs
Last: Herde
First: Annie Louisa
Identity: Winninowie
Locality: Port Augusta
Province: South Australia
Country: Australia
Religion: Church of England
Enlisted Day: 4
Enlisted Month: September
Enlisted Year: 1916
Embarkation Ship: HMAT A45 "Bulla"
Embarkation Day: 16
Embarkation Month: January
Embarkation Year: 1917
Embarkation Port: Adelaide
Section: 23rd Reinforcements
Regiment: 9th Light Horse Regiment
Previous Service: None
Fate: Returned to Australia
Day: 10
Month: July
Year: 1919
Ship: Oxfordshire
Last Rank: Private
Honours: None
Squadron: B
Gallipoli: No
Notes:
    1. Enlisted in Base Light Horse Details, 4 September 1916
    2. Absorbed into 9th Light Horse Regiment, 23rd Reinforcements, 10 October 1916
    3. Transferred to 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron, 2 March 1917
    4. Transferred to 9th Light Horse Regiment B Squadron, 15 August 1917

Part Two: Week by week summary of status from “Enlistment” to “Returned to Australia”.

7/09/16 - Base Training Squadron
14/09/16 - Base Training Squadron
21/09/16 - Base Training Squadron
28/09/16 - Base Training Squadron
7/10/16 - Base Training Squadron
14/10/16 - Base Training Squadron
21/10/16 - Base Training Squadron
28/10/16 - Base Training Squadron
7/11/16 - Base Training Squadron
14/11/16 - Base Training Squadron
21/11/16 - Base Training Squadron
28/11/16 - Base Training Squadron
7/12/16 - Base Training Squadron
14/12/16 - Base Training Squadron
21/12/16 - Base Training Squadron
28/12/16 - Base Training Squadron
7/01/17 - Base Training Squadron
14/01/17 - Base Training Squadron
21/01/17 - Base Training Squadron
28/01/17 - Base Training Squadron
7/02/17 - Base Training Squadron
14/02/17 - Base Training Squadron
21/02/17 - Base Training Squadron
28/02/17 - Base Training Squadron
7/03/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron
14/03/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron
21/03/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron
28/03/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron
7/04/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
14/04/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
21/04/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
28/04/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
7/05/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
14/05/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
21/05/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
28/05/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
7/06/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
14/06/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
21/06/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
28/06/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
7/07/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
14/07/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
21/07/17 - Evacuated to hospital sick
28/07/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron
7/08/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Training Squadron
14/08/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
21/08/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
28/08/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
7/09/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
14/09/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
21/09/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
28/09/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
7/10/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
14/10/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
21/10/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
28/10/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
7/11/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
14/11/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
21/11/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
28/11/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
7/12/17 - 9th Light Horse Regiment Nominal Roll
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Additional information provided by Andrew Kilsby:

You have the spelling out a bit - it is Arthur Arnold Herde not 'Arould'... I know that his name is Arthur Arnold (in all the family trees etc. I have at hand) and can only put down the B4717 record as the person writing in the details put it in as he heard it rather than checking; probably because he was hurry ... you know, Dixon vs Dickson etc.  There remains a possibility that it is the German spelling? Which perhaps was used on his birth certificate but in those days even more reason to use the Anglicized version, and none of the siblings had Germanized names, so I believe the first premise to be more accurate an assumption.

I met old "Uncle Arthur" - my brother-in-law's uncle - at Spear Creek Station between Port Augusta and Wilmington in the late 60s early 70's (I think he died before 1975).  He lived alone in a small house next to the main homestead and spent most of his day on the verandah with an old bush hat on.  His legs were terribly bowed from decades of riding horses and he was as tough as he looked, even at that age.  I was told that he'd been a light horseman and he had a few trinkets from the war to 'show and tell' but I was too young to appreciate the story and even after I'd joined the Army myself never thought to write down his history from his own lips.  Fortunately a number of photos and other memorabilia survive.  It shows that he worked bullock carts collecting wood in the Port Augusta district - and was a bushman, but the drought of 1914 meant it was an easy decision to join up.  His great nephew Mark rode as an extra in The Lighthorsemen film on the Port Lincoln sandhills and remains proud of that indirect link with his great-uncle's own experiences. 

One interesting thing - Arthur was baptized by the Chaplain outside of Jerusalem - don't know if this was religious tourism or the real deal but the baptism card is in the family records. He returned from the war, according to family records - a changed man and rather bitter.  Why we don't know.  But at least I can say "I met a light horseman who was over there".


Citation: 3052 Trooper Arthur Arould Herde

Posted by Project Leader at 2:53 PM EADT
Updated: Saturday, 2 August 2008 11:14 AM EADT

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